So, the first taste I had of this, bumming off of Jet, was really good, like a light sour slash lambic. But when I got one of my own, I found almost no sour, and instead some of that off-caramel that I get from barrel aged beers. So I'm left somewhat unsure.

A little musty as how I'd expect beer from monks... I have to be in the right mood but this works for me

Much drier and somewhat more muddled than the quad. It's nice, but lacks the purity of that beer, and maybe screams a little "cave" while it's at it.